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Santa Ana River Gorge Run | Easy & Scenic | August 13, 2022

This will be an easy run, suitable for Noobs, FNG's or anyone who just needs some low-stress seat time in the mountains. I would especially like to invite all of our newest Bronco 6G members who are new to off-roading and want to get their feet wet with an easy run. But all So Cal Broncos are welcome, from OG to 6G.

RSVP REQUIRED
If you would like to join us, please respond in this thread with your name(s) and the year and color of your Bronco as shown below. I'll add your name onto this list in the order it's posted. We'll be capping participation at 20 rigs. If you have friends with another Bronco that wants to come, let them know they will need to come to this thread and add their information themselves, rather than you adding them.​
  1. Dusty & Steffie Sharp, '21 White 2-door Base
  2. Lucia and Joerg Hallbauer, Blue Bronco Badlands
  3. Jamie and Jose Castaneda, ‘22 White 4D WT/Hoss
  4. Terry Marvel, 2021 Bronco 2door badlands Cyber Orange
  5. Scott and Bonnie Butler, 2021 4dr. Badlands cyber orange
  6. Rob Potts , 2021 Lightning Blue 4-door
  7. Chris & Pat "Stormi" 22 4D Carbonized Gray Badlands Squatch on 37's
  8. Matt & Fate with Base Sasquatch Carbonized Gray beauty!
  9. Mike B, ‘70 Orange Halfcab
  10. Anthony Garcia, 22’ Big Bend 2 Door Velocity Blue
  11. Don & Nelson, 2021 black diamond 4 door , race red
  12. Tommy McNicholas, 2021 4DR Area 51 Badlands
  13. KAI & Ingrid, 22`wildtrak 4D Eruption green
  14. Jason 2022 Cyber Orange 4d Wildtrack
  15. Carlos Mendez, 22 4 door carbonized gray BaseSquatch
  16. Barry Grogan, ‘22 - 2-DR - Black Diamond - Area 51
  17. Kurt and Cristen Gerum, 2021 4 door fist edition cactus grey
  18. Frank & Kelly Aguilar, 22' Black D Sas CarbG
  19. Oscar espinoza 2021 bronco
  20. The Brothers Bogner in "Fugly"
  21. Rick White, 21 Badlands, Sasquatch 2 door Carbonized Gray
ABOUT THE ROUTE
The route will take us from Highland up into the San Bernardino Mountains, along a route that very roughly parallels the Santa Ana River, but high along the north bench, providing some great views of the backcountry and the valleys below. Along the way we'll pass the Seven Oaks Dam (from a distance), Keller Cliffs, Manzanita Flats, Bear Creek (where we might stop for lunch or to cool our feet), Seven Pines, Clark's Ranch, Converse Flats, and ending up at the Santa Ana River where it crosses under Highway 38 up past Barton Flats. We will cover nearly 40 miles on dirt and gain almost 4,500 feet in elevation. The route uses forest service roads which can be bumpy, sometimes rutted and a little rocky, but all of it should be passable in 2 wheel drive. So ANY Bronco in good working order is suitable for this run. The only caveat being, especially for our Early Bronco friends, to make sure your cooling system is in good working order as there are some long, sustained climbs.​
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If you would like to check out the route for yourself, I have set up THIS GOOGLE MAP with route and waypoints. Note that you are free to use this map any time, so if you can't make it to this run, perhaps you might consider running it another time with a group of friends.​

MEETING TIME
We will depart the Staging Area at 9:00 AM on August 13th. Please arrive early to allow time to air down (if desired--more on that below), socialize, or buffer time in case of traffic getting to the trailhead.​

GETTING TO THE TRAILHEAD
The run will stage at the beginning of Alder Creek Road (Forest Service Road 1N16) in Highland, CA. Please be aware that the approach to Alder Creek Road has been altered significantly by recent construction of new homes and streets. Most online maps and GPS software will not be updated for the new street alignments yet. However, I have provided waypoints and GPS route in THIS MAP on Google Maps. If you aren't savvy with using GPS apps, you can simply search for the East Valley Water District in Highland, California, on your phone and have it give you directions in whichever app you're comfortable with using. Then follow these directions:​
  1. Find your way to East Valley Water District, 31111 Greenspot Rd, Highland, CA 92346. Note that this address is being used for reference, it is not your actual destination.
  2. When you approach the Water District entrance, turn the opposite direction, on to a new street that has just been constructed, across Greenspot Road from the Water District. This is Mediterra Parkway. It probably does not show up on your map software yet. If you are coming through Highland as most of you will, the Water District is on the right, you will be turning left (North) onto Mediterra Parkway.
  3. After making the turn, you may see a bright yellow sign with an arrow that points to "Fire/Forestry Access 1N16". The road will pass a small roundabout then curve to the left, becoming Avenida Ramblas.
  4. Turn right at Sorrento Way. There may be another bright yellow sign pointing you in the right direction.
  5. Sorrento Way is very short, only a couple of hundred feet to a cul-de-sac at it's end. This is where we will meet to stage for the run. For those of you using the GPS waypoints, this is the second waypoint on the list, "Alder Creek Road NEW Start Point".
It's very important to remember that if you simply enter Alder Creek Road or 1N16 into your map app, it might send you to the wrong place. If you've done this trail before, but not recently, it's probably completely different now.​

MAPS & GPS DATA
If you would like to check out the route for yourself and/or pre-load it into your GPS device or app, I've provided the routes and waypoints resources below. Note that you are free to use this map any time, so if you can't make it to this run, perhaps you might consider running it another time with a group of friends.
COMMUNICATIONS
For this run we will be using 146.535 VHF for communications. If you already own or will be buying a radio prior to the run, please make sure this frequency is programmed into it prior to the run.​
It isn't necessary to have a radio for communications on the trail, but it will enhance your experience knowing what's going on with the group, hearing directions and points of interest from the run leader, and knowing what's going on if there's a stoppage ahead or behind you. And of course its a huge help if you are the one needing assistance. If you don't have one, you will still have a great time. But if you can get one before the run, I highly recommend it.​
In So Cal Broncos we primarily use 2-Way VHF radios in the 136-174Mhz frequency range. Generally, any of the PCI, Rugged, Baofeng, etc. radios will work. GMRS, FRS and CB radios will not work on the frequencies we use. HERE is a discussion thread on this forum about radios and the list of frequencies most So Cal Broncos folks keep handy. If you would like to buy a suitable hand-held radio prior to the run, I recommend the Baofeng UV-82HP (Amazon link). If you buy a new radio prior to the run, please make sure it is charged up and the frequency we use is already programmed into it. The radio will come with instructions on how to do so.​

BE PREPARED
Please be prepared for a long day on the trail, in some remote back-country. Here are some things you should bring:
  • Lunch. We will be on the trail at chow time, and we will stop somewhere along the way for lunch, so bring some. It's also advisable to bring folding chairs.
  • Plenty of water
  • Additional beverages of your choosing
  • Sun screen and bug spray
  • Dress for the weather, and for any weather contingencies. It will probably be fairly warm on the day of the run. But we will be in the high elevations toward the late afternoon, so it may be cooler for your ride home. Check the weather before you leave, and bring appropriate gear if there is even a hint of a chance of rain that day. If it rains anywhere in Southern California, it will be in the mountains.
VEHICLE EQIPMENT
No special equipment is needed for this run. We don't expect any difficult obstacles so heavy duty recovery equipment will not be needed, but..​
  • Of course it is always a good idea to at least carry a recovery strap, and a way to attach it to either end of your vehicle (D-rings, soft shackles, attachment hard points on the vehicle) just in case you need a tug or a tow.
  • It's a good idea to air down your tires on this run. You won't need to for traction, but it's a long, bumpy ride so airing down will make it a lot more comfortable. If you want to air down, make sure you have suitable tools for both airing down and airing back up.
  • You should carry a spare tire and the tools to change it.
That's it! If you have any questions please ask them in the comments below. Here are a couple of pics from a run we did on this route not too long ago, in our Early Bronco, with some of our local friends. The first is from Keller Cliffs, the second one is from the Seven Pines area, the last one is from the Bear Creek bridge, in our old Jeep.

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Folks, I corrected my radio based on the changes that Dusty posted above to SCB-1 and SCB-2. Attached is a zipped file that has a CSV export of the frequencies in it. I exported this from CHiRP, so if you're using that, you should be able to just import that file. Mine includes, all of the above SCB frequencies as well as all the GMRS, and FRS frequencies along with some repeaters as well.
 

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Dusty, I have to drop out. Checking out the old girl today and we got an oil leak. I replaced some parts and they didn’t quite fit. This gave the oil a new place to go, all over the place. Can’t get on it until Saturday. So I’m out. Thanks for the invite.
 
Dusty, I have to drop out. Checking out the old girl today and we got an oil leak. I replaced some parts and they didn’t quite fit. This gave the oil a new place to go, all over the place. Can’t get on it until Saturday. So I’m out. Thanks for the invite.
No worries, appreciate the heads up. See you on the next one!
 
Thanks Dusty, I'm a complete noob, so will likely need some tips along the way. I saw you recommended to air down the tires, what psi would you recommend on this trail?

If you have the means to air back up at the end of the trail, I'd go down to 15 PSI. That will give you a nice comfortable ride. If you can't air back up, just go to 20. That will give you a better ride but still enough air in the tires to get back to town on blacktop to fill them back up at the first gas station. That said, it's not necessary to air down at all if you don't want to. The new Bronco's suspension does a better job of soaking up those nuisance bumps than most other 4X4's.
 
If you have the means to air back up at the end of the trail, I'd go down to 15 PSI. That will give you a nice comfortable ride. If you can't air back up, just go to 20. That will give you a better ride but still enough air in the tires to get back to town on blacktop to fill them back up at the first gas station. That said, it's not necessary to air down at all if you don't want to. The new Bronco's suspension does a better job of soaking up those nuisance bumps than most other 4X4's.
Great, thanks!
 
If you have the means to air back up at the end of the trail, I'd go down to 15 PSI. That will give you a nice comfortable ride. If you can't air back up, just go to 20. That will give you a better ride but still enough air in the tires to get back to town on blacktop to fill them back up at the first gas station. That said, it's not necessary to air down at all if you don't want to. The new Bronco's suspension does a better job of soaking up those nuisance bumps than most other 4X4's.
Having said that, there will be plenty of folks with compressors on the trail on Sat. Who know's one of them might be able to lend you their's. ;)
 
Looking forward to seeing everyone at the trailhead in the morning! Here are a couple of things to keep in mind.
  • Show up gassed up. You can top off your tank in Highland before heading over to the trailhead. It will be a long day on the trail with no further access to gas stations. I'm not sure how much gas you'll need but I'll guarantee you won't run out of gas if you show up with a full tank.
  • If you own or have purchased a new 2-way radio to use on this and other So Cal Broncos runs, make sure it is programmed to channel 146.535 VHF before showing up. If you're not familiar with how to program your radio or key in a frequency, it's even harder to learn it while everyone is starting engines and slamming doors to start up the trail. Familiarize yourself with it ahead of time.
  • Keep the directions to the trailhead (as outlined in the first post) handy. Either jot them down or make sure you can get to them quickly in your phone. The trailhead is a couple of streets and turns into a new construction zone where the streets most likely are not on your GPS or mapping software yet.
  • When you show up at the trailhead, note that it's in the end of a cul-de-sac, and the forest road heads up the hill past the cul-de-sac. We will be gathering there for the run, but PLEASE make sure you do not block traffic for anyone trying to get through. There may be others using the trail besides our group, so be courteous and make sure the route is passable when you stop.
  • Please show up EARLY and be ready to head up the trail at 9:00 AM. If this is your first run with So Cal Broncos or any other group, you'll find out that there's usually a lot of meeting and greeting, kicking tires and bullshitting when everyone first gathers up for a run. Also, if you plan to air down you'll need about 10 minutes or so to do that. Plus, plan for other contingencies such as traffic getting there, stops for gas etc. So give yourself some buffer time.
  • You may have heard that there is some road damage on Highway 38, which may affect our route home. There may also be some washouts on some of the forest roads. I haven't scouted it recently, but I know the area well, and you will be in good hands. We'll go through or around any problems we find, and you'll have a blast. I can attest that whenever there's some unexpected issue or obstacle on a trail run, you tend to have more fun and that trip will make even better memories. But to be honest I don't really think we'll run into any trail-condition related issues other than the Highway 38 closure, for which there is an easy work-around.
  • Pack a lunch and plenty of beverages!
 
I have a portable ARB that I will bring for someone to make use of. Assuming I get the wiring done for my onboard one today :)
 
I use a portable compressor as well. Once I'm done airing back up, I'm happy to hang around to help anyone having trouble, etc. with getting aired back up as well.
 
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Dusty,

I can’t make it on Saturday. I’m having terrible back pain and it’s just not getting better.

Im sorry to have to “back” out. Im # 7 above

Have a great run
 
Dusty,

I can’t make it on Saturday. I’m having terrible back pain and it’s just not getting better.

Im sorry to have to “back” out. Im # 7 above

Have a great run
Sorry you can't make it but thanks for the heads up! Hope you feel better soon and we'll see you on the next one.
 
Looking forward to seeing everyone at the trailhead in the morning! Here are a couple of things to keep in mind.
  • Show up gassed up. You can top off your tank in Highland before heading over to the trailhead. It will be a long day on the trail with no further access to gas stations. I'm not sure how much gas you'll need but I'll guarantee you won't run out of gas if you show up with a full tank.
  • If you own or have purchased a new 2-way radio to use on this and other So Cal Broncos runs, make sure it is programmed to channel 146.535 VHF before showing up. If you're not familiar with how to program your radio or key in a frequency, it's even harder to learn it while everyone is starting engines and slamming doors to start up the trail. Familiarize yourself with it ahead of time.
  • Keep the directions to the trailhead (as outlined in the first post) handy. Either jot them down or make sure you can get to them quickly in your phone. The trailhead is a couple of streets and turns into a new construction zone where the streets most likely are not on your GPS or mapping software yet.
  • When you show up at the trailhead, note that it's in the end of a cul-de-sac, and the forest road heads up the hill past the cul-de-sac. We will be gathering there for the run, but PLEASE make sure you do not block traffic for anyone trying to get through. There may be others using the trail besides our group, so be courteous and make sure the route is passable when you stop.
  • Please show up EARLY and be ready to head up the trail at 9:00 AM. If this is your first run with So Cal Broncos or any other group, you'll find out that there's usually a lot of meeting and greeting, kicking tires and bullshitting when everyone first gathers up for a run. Also, if you plan to air down you'll need about 10 minutes or so to do that. Plus, plan for other contingencies such as traffic getting there, stops for gas etc. So give yourself some buffer time.
  • You may have heard that there is some road damage on Highway 38, which may affect our route home. There may also be some washouts on some of the forest roads. I haven't scouted it recently, but I know the area well, and you will be in good hands. We'll go through or around any problems we find, and you'll have a blast. I can attest that whenever there's some unexpected issue or obstacle on a trail run, you tend to have more fun and that trip will make even better memories. But to be honest I don't really think we'll run into any trail-condition related issues other than the Highway 38 closure, for which there is an easy work-around.
  • Pack a lunch and plenty of beverages!
We did a quick check of the staging area at noon today. Your directions are spot on. There was a crew working in the cul-de-sac at the end of Sorrento but no problem accessing the large dirt field at the end. They probably won’t be working on Saturday.
 
o seeing everyone at the trailhead in the morning! Here are a couple of things to keep in mind.
  • Show up gassed up. You can top off your tank in Highland before heading over to the trailhead. It will be a long day on the trail with no further access to gas stations. I'm not sure how much gas you'll need but I'll guarantee you won't run out of gas if you show up with a full tank.
  • If you own or have purchased a new 2-way radio to use on this and other So Cal Broncos runs, make sure it is programmed to channel 146.535 VHF before showing up. If you're not familiar with how to program your radio or key in a frequency, it's even harder to learn it while everyone is starting engines and slamming doors to start up the trail. Familiarize yourself with it ahead of time.
  • Keep the directions to the trailhead (as outlined in the first post) handy. Either jot them down or make sure you can get to them quickly in your phone. The trailhead is a couple of streets and turns into a new construction zone where the streets most likely are not on your GPS or mapping software yet.
  • When you show up at the trailhead, note that it's in the end of a cul-de-sac, and the forest road heads up the hill past the cul-de-sac. We will be gathering there for the run, but PLEASE make sure you do not block traffic for anyone trying to get through. There may be others using the trail besides our group, so be courteous and make sure the route is passable when you stop.
  • Please show up EARLY and be ready to head up the trail at 9:00 AM. If this is your first run with So Cal Broncos or any other group, you'll find out that there's usually a lot of meeting and greeting, kicking tires and bullshitting when everyone first gathers up for a run. Also, if you plan to air down you'll need about 10 minutes or so to do that. Plus, plan for other contingencies such as traffic getting there, stops for gas etc. So give yourself some buffer time.
  • You may have heard that there is some road damage on Highway 38, which may affect our route home. There may also be some washouts on some of the forest roads. I haven't scouted it recently, but I know the area well, and you will be in good hands. We'll go through or around any problems we find, and you'll have a blast. I can attest that whenever there's some unexpected issue or obstacle on a trail run, you tend to have more fun and that trip will make even better memories. But to be honest I don't really think we'll run into any trail-condition related issues other than the Highway 38 closure, for which there is an easy work-around.
  • Pack a lunch and plenty of beverages!
Thank you Dusty for the tips and advice. Very helpful for Noobs like myself :)
 
That squelch setting (SQL) is particularly important so that every distant transmission doesn't break your squelch. The default is set so low it drives me NUTS. At least on my UV-F8HP.
Hey Badsquatch or JEDI....FNG here with what I'm sure are really dumb questions...it sounds like you guys know the radio stuff pretty well.

I also picked up the UV-82 from Baofeng. I did not know I needed an interface cable to program it. Does the interface cable/CHIRP just expedite programming or is it required? I have frequency 146.535 showing on my display in "frequency mode". I mistakenly thought I was good to go. Do I need to do more?
 
Hey Badsquatch or JEDI....FNG here with what I'm sure are really dumb questions...it sounds like you guys know the radio stuff pretty well.

I also picked up the UV-82 from Baofeng. I did not know I needed an interface cable to program it. Does the interface cable/CHIRP just expedite programming or is it required? I have frequency 146.535 showing on my display in "frequency mode". I mistakenly thought I was good to go. Do I need to do more?

You can key in frequencies on the radio. That's why it has number keys. You must have figured out how to do that. Your radio should have come with a booklet. If not, you can look up instructions for it online. I suggest familiarizing yourself with it. In particular there is a "lock keys" function. Once you have it on the channel you want, lock the keys so you don't accidentally change channels.
 
Hey Badsquatch or JEDI....FNG here with what I'm sure are really dumb questions...it sounds like you guys know the radio stuff pretty well.

I also picked up the UV-82 from Baofeng. I did not know I needed an interface cable to program it. Does the interface cable/CHIRP just expedite programming or is it required? I have frequency 146.535 showing on my display in "frequency mode". I mistakenly thought I was good to go. Do I need to do more?
Nope, you are all set for that freq. which is what we are using tomorrow. You can do all the programming from the radio. The cable and CHIRP just makes it easier and quicker. Here’s a video that covers programming your type of radio that might be helpful.
 

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