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Bronco 6G Tie Rod Issues?

Buk_Yeh

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Came back from the Bronco Off-Roadeo in Moab and the instructors there were talking about the Bronco 6G's tie rods, in that they felt they may be a little underwhelming as compared with the capabilities of the rest of the vehicle. After doing a little more digging, it seems that a growing consensus amongst 6G owners is that the tie rods are prone to snapping when off roading. I found an article on Bronco Nation that basically same the same thing: https://thebronconation.com/bronco-tie-rod-failures-rarity-or-looming-problem/

Just curious if anyone has any experiences with broken tie rods already, and if there is a "cure" for this problem (upgrades, replacements, etc.), or even if it is a true problem at all. Thanks much.
 
It's a real issue. I haven't broken one but I know plenty of people who have. There are quite a few remedies available on the market, from splints and sleeves to strengthen your existing tie rods, to massive CNC machined billet tie rods with heim joints. In my opinion the best solution is the XD Forged Tie Rod kit from ICON (here's a LINK). It's not a splint or a band-aid, it's a solution. It uses real, greaseable automotive style ball joints rather than motorsports-style heim joints. It's made of CNC machined chromoly and forged steel. It's beefier in every dimension than the stock tie rods, including the threads where the inner and outer tie rods meet, which is where they usually break. The stock Bronco tie rods have a 14mm thread. The ICON tie rods have an 18mm thread. That's even bigger than the HOSS3/Raptor tie rods which have a 16mm thread. Disclaimer: I work for ICON so you may take my recommendation with a grain of salt. But it's right. :)

Also, because this is of course going to come up probably in the very next post in this thread, I'll address the "doesn't that just transfer the damage to the steering rack" question. The answer is yes, rather than simply snapping like a Ticonderoga #2, a stronger tie rod will indeed transmit the jolts it sees upstream to the steering rack. But it is my opinion (and that of many folks I know) that the strength deficiency of the tie rods compared to what it should be, is a much bigger gap than for the steering rack. Put another way, the steering rack, while not an absolute beast in robustness, is still a few levels higher than the tie rods. They're of course not invincible and there are plenty of examples of people breaking them, but they're not going to just grenade at the first sight of rocks the way the tie rods seem to. So strengthening the tie rods will give you quite a bit more operating cushion. But you'll still need to avoid driving the Bronco like a wrecking ball. Only use the front locker when it's absolutely necessary (this should be a general rule of thumb anyhow). Never give it the beans with the steering fully turned. Don't let the front end hop while under torque. Try not to turn too sharp when coming down steep obstacles against a rock. Drive smart, pick good lines, use patience, don't just hammer it all the time.

That's my $0.02 on tie rods.
 
I completely agree with Dusty. The only thing I would add is that the stock tie roads with stock tire sizes or probably OK, assuming you follow Dusty's advice on driving anyway. If you go to larger tires (37+) then you're definitely going to need to beef up those tie rods, and Dusty's company does make a great product. I would also suggest that if you go above 37's, you take a serious look at beefing up your steering rack. Again, there are several after market products available to help you with that as well.
 
That's really really good advice. Thank you both for the info. I don't plan on going up to 37s anytime soon, but might still look into those stronger tie rods anyway so I don't end up stuck out on a trail somewhere. Weird that that has been identified as a legit deficiency in these cars and Ford has not issued a recall or at least come up with an OEM solution. Again, thank you both for the advice.

By the way @BadSquatch, I was born and raised in Valencia. Nice to meet another Santa Clarita Valley resident.
 
That's really really good advice. Thank you both for the info. I don't plan on going up to 37s anytime soon, but might still look into those stronger tie rods anyway so I don't end up stuck out on a trail somewhere. Weird that that has been identified as a legit deficiency in these cars and Ford has not issued a recall or at least come up with an OEM solution. Again, thank you both for the advice.

By the way @BadSquatch, I was born and raised in Valencia. Nice to meet another Santa Clarita Valley resident.
I’m in Saugus now. Nice to meet you. Are you still in the SCV?
 
No sir. Not anymore. I am down in San Diego now. I was just back up there in March for a work thing. It was nice seeing the old stomping grounds again. Prior to that I hadn’t been back up there in a few years. There are times when I really do miss the SCV.

I’ll try and introduce myself at the BBBB.
 
Great advice, seems like every few months some new upgrade for the tie rod or steering rack is popping up,either way solid info and driving smart will be key before being able to bullet proof those issues.
 
Anyone have experience with tie rod sleeves as a temporary solution? Those Icons are nice, but a little out of the price range. BroncBuster’s got a sleeve for $400 and Rough Country has one for only $45. Any recommendations on those, or just wait and do it right with an Icon job?
 
Anyone have experience with tie rod sleeves as a temporary solution? Those Icons are nice, but a little out of the price range. BroncBuster’s got a sleeve for $400 and Rough Country has one for only $45. Any recommendations on those, or just wait and do it right with an Icon job?
In my mind, it all depends on the kind of wheeling you want to be able to do and what size tires you want to run in combination. If you just want to run up to, say 5 rated trails and stick with the 35's or lower, then in my opinion the sleeves from BroncBuster together with their upgraded bushing for the steering box is plenty. 6-7 trail ratings with 37's, it starts to get a little sketchy, but probably still OK. If you bump up to more difficult trails 7+ and pair that with 37"+ tires, then something more like the Icons is probably a good idea. Once you move to 40s, and start hitting those EXTREME trails, all bets are off, upgraded tie rods and upgraded steering rack is probably a good idea. YMMD In general, I stay away from Rough Country products, they are that inexpensive for a reason.
 
Just to clarify: The ICON XD Forged Tie Rods cost less than the BroncBuster braces that clamp on to the stock tie rods. I'm going to differ slightly from BadSquatch on one point. The Rough Country steering rack bushings have so far proven to be of good quality (they are Made in USA, unlike most of their stuff) and can be bought for a fraction of what the BroncBuster ones cost. I really like the guys from BroncBuster and they were early to the party with some great solutions to address the Bronco's weak links. But in some cases the market has caught up with them so there's some competition now, which I should suggest they engage with more than just waving the flag. I would pay more to support them as a US company, within reason. But if it's a choice of not running rack bushings because you can't afford the $300 pieces of plastic, then I can't fault you for opting for the RC ones which are essentially the same thing for a fraction of the price.

That said, 74Weld is in the process of turning this whole discussion on its ear. Even with lower-cost solutions for those of us who can't afford a fully billet version of a HOSS 3.0 rack.
 
Just to clarify: The ICON XD Forged Tie Rods cost less than the BroncBuster braces that clamp on to the stock tie rods. I'm going to differ slightly from BadSquatch on one point. The Rough Country steering rack bushings have so far proven to be of good quality (they are Made in USA, unlike most of their stuff) and can be bought for a fraction of what the BroncBuster ones cost. I really like the guys from BroncBuster and they were early to the party with some great solutions to address the Bronco's weak links. But in some cases the market has caught up with them so there's some competition now, which I should suggest they engage with more than just waving the flag. I would pay more to support them as a US company, within reason. But if it's a choice of not running rack bushings because you can't afford the $300 pieces of plastic, then I can't fault you for opting for the RC ones which are essentially the same thing for a fraction of the price.

That said, 74Weld is in the process of turning this whole discussion on its ear. Even with lower-cost solutions for those of us who can't afford a fully billet version of a HOSS 3.0 rack.

I think everyone is waiting (including 74weld) to get stock of the 3.0 racks. Hopefully Ford will start producing more this summer!

Just curious, will there be an Icon product at the event for sale? Thinking of ordering the XD tie rods but not sure they will get here in time for my "tie rod repair kit".
 
I think everyone is waiting (including 74weld) to get stock of the 3.0 racks. Hopefully Ford will start producing more this summer!

Just curious, will there be an Icon product at the event for sale? Thinking of ordering the XD tie rods but not sure they will get here in time for my "tie rod repair kit".

Which event are you talking about? If you mean Big Bear Bronco Bash, no. We don't have a vendor show at BBBB. As for 74Weld, they have a version of their billet rack housing coming out soon for HOSS 1/2 racks. You can do the swap with your existing rack internals and not need to flash the computer. They also have a "Stage 1" kit coming out that just has the bushings for the housing ends but metal not plastic like the ones currently on the market.
 
Which event are you talking about? If you mean Big Bear Bronco Bash, no. We don't have a vendor show at BBBB. As for 74Weld, they have a version of their billet rack housing coming out soon for HOSS 1/2 racks. You can do the swap with your existing rack internals and not need to flash the computer. They also have a "Stage 1" kit coming out that just has the bushings for the housing ends but metal not plastic like the ones currently on the market.
Yes the BBBB event.
I spoke to the guys at 74Weld earlier this month and they said they had the Stage 2 kit in stock. They are just waiting for Ford to ship the the Hoss 3.0 racks but they also have the stage 3 housing ready to go (just not the internals). For my purposes upgrading the tie rods and a stage 1 rack housing would be plenty (at least how I am currently driving my Bronco).
 

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