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BBBB XXIV - Friday Easy+ Run - Upper Holcomb and Delmar Mountain

BadSquatch

BadSquatch

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I'll be leading a run on Friday of Big Bear Bronco Bash, and invite anyone who's interested to join me. Since there are so many folks interested, we are going to break up the group and give some of you a chance to help the USFS OHV volunteers with a little light trail maintenance. The rest will come with me for the run as described. See @Gotchaa's post below for a better description of what they do, etc.
  • DATE : Friday, June 6
  • TIME: 9:00 AM
  • TRAIL RATING: Easy+
  • TRAILS: Upper Holcomb and Delmar Mountain
  • STAGING LOCATION: Big Bear Discovery Center Parking Lot in the back. Google Maps Link: https://maps.app.goo.gl/XAJNfZvcVYb7cs348
  • MAX VEHICLES: 15
  • COMMS: GMRS/FRS Channel Primary: 16 Secondary:18 (for those of you with HAM radios that's Primary: 462.5750, Secondary: 462.6250)

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Upper Holcomb Creek to Delamar Mountain is an easy, scenic run through the forest north of Big Bear Lake. I'm calling it Easy+ because there several short, lightly technical sections that any stock 4WD vehicle should be able to make. We will meet at the rear parking lot of Big Bear Discovery Center. The route starts at the Fawnskin FireStation and proceeds up 3N14 (Coxey Rd.) which is one of the "main drags" and leads to many other trails on the north side of Big Bear Lake. Speaking of which, we will then turn off onto 3N08 (Upper Holcomb Creek Rd. ). Please don't confuse this with the much more difficult Holcomb Creek. We will continue on 3N08 all the way until it ends at 3N16 (Holcomb Valley Rd.) which we will use briefly until we transition onto 3N83 which is often referred to as Upper Holcomb Rd. This trail has a couple of slightly more technical spots, but nothing that a 4WD with a bit of ground clearance like a Bronco can't handle pretty easily. That will take us back to 3N16, but again briefly, as we will transition into 2N09 (Polique Canyon Rd.). This is another of those "main drags" and will take us to our next turn onto 2N09A (Polique Canyon Spur). That will lead us to 3N12 (Delmar Man Rd). We will take 3N12 until we get to 2N71 (Blue Quartz) which will lead us right back to 2N09, which take us back to the highway.

Here's a link to the run on OnX, if you need/want the .gpx file hit me up and I'll sent it to you.

What you need to bring:
  • HAM/GRMS Radio (GMRS/FRS Channel 17 (for those of you with HAM radios that's freq. 462.600))
  • GPS Reader of some type (we'll communicate files in GPX) (optional)
  • 1 full size spare
  • Lunch Water & Snacks (we will be stopping for lunch as soon as I figure out the best spot)
  • Basic tools and recovery gear (if you don't have these, there are some good threads on this forum talking about what you get. Since this is an easy trail, you SHOULDN'T need them but it's good to have them, "just in case")

I'd like to limit the number of vehicles to 15. If you'd like to join me please post below with your name, the model of Bronco, trim level, and year. Then I'll add you to the list.

PARTICIPANTS:
  1. Joerg Hallbauer ('22 Velocity Blue BadSquatch)
  2. Jeff & Jeanne (23 Bronco Area51 Badlands)
  3. Dave & Karen (2021 Badlands Sasquatch)
  4. Joseph (22 OB)
  5. Dan pikschus (2023 Badlands bronco two door)
  6. Matthew Wedgeworth (1990 bronco, green and black)
  7. Rich K (2024 raptor bronco)
  8. Jason & Kelly Myers (2022 Badlands Sas)
  9. Mike P (23 Badlands Sasquatch)
  10. Jared (21 Outer Banks heavily modified)
  11. Jim Biancavilla ('24 Wildtrak Sasquatch)
  12. Dimitar (‘21 Badlands Sas)
  13. Robert Bryant (1978 bronco)
  14. Joey ('22 Sand Everglades)
  15. @JDZ (2021 big bend)
  16. Joel Knott (23 Badlands Sas)
  17. Mark Esquer ( '22 Badlands SAS)
  18. "Pac-Man" ('22 Bad Sas)
  19. Heather G (‘23 Big Bend)
  20. Coleen H (2021 Area 51 Badlands)
  21. Shawn (23 Badlands)
  22. @missjilian (Badlands SAS)
  23. @Rob P (mystery)
  24. @Jarmo Karhu (‘21 Sasquatch)
 
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Is this the same run from last year? If so we may sign up. Really enjoyed that last year. Thanks for leading some easy runs. Much appreciated.
 
Please sign up me and my wife Jeanne. And also Dave and Karen from the Thursday run. Dave’s my brother in law with the lifted Bronco. Thank you.
 
Folks,

For those of you new of the off-road game, or want a reminder, I though I would post some basic trail etiquette. I'll go over some of this in the drivers meeting as well, and since this is an easy run, you won't have to worry much about a lot of it. But it's a "good to know" kinda thing for those who are new to the "off-road game".

TRAIL COMMUNICATION IS A SAFETY ISSUE:
Trail communication between vehicles is not just a convenience but a safety requirement, IMHO. The ability to communicate with others that an obstacle is still blocked or has been cleared, or that a hazard is present, can save a lot of grief. Knowing others are on the trail, such as hikers, horses, or ATVs, can be important for the safety of everyone on the trail. Whatever your group uses for communication, be it CB, HAM, GMRS, or something else, I suggest you get one and learn to use it. For those that don't have one yet, there are a number of threads here on the forums talking about radio, what to get, etc. Note that "officially" SCB uses 2-meter HAM but I know that a lot of you have GRMS only radios, so that's fine, we will make a final decision, and frequency/channel choice at the drivers meeting.

YOU ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR THE RIG BEHIND YOU:
You are responsible for the vehicle behind you when traveling the trail or in the convoy to or from the trail. You should try to keep that vehicle in your rear-view mirrors as much as possible. If they move slower than the group and fall behind, you should slow down or stop as needed for them to catch up. The driver in front of you should see that you slowed down or stopped and do the same. Nobody will get left far behind if everyone does this. When you come to a fork or turn in the road, you should wait at the intersection until you know the driver behind you sees the turn. They will make sure the same happens for the rig behind them. If someone needs a little privacy, you can't always keep them in view, but you can keep them in radio distance or sit just out of sight and wait for them to rejoin the ride.

GIVE PLENTY OF SPACE BETWEEN RIGS:
A little bit of space between rigs is a good thing. This is especially true of you have a gen-6 Bronco with the Goodyear rock throwers, err, I mean tires. Whether the rig in front of you is moving or stopped, you should typically not run up close behind them. Among other things, a little distance allows you to see the trail more clearly so you may see and choose the better line. When going uphill, staying back may keep you from being hit by rocks that are tossed or rolled down by the vehicle ahead of you. They may need extra room to back or deal with obstacles. That will be much more difficult if you are right on their bumper. On really rough spots, wait at the bottom or top, as the case may be, until the leading vehicle clears the hill completely. If you cannot see them clear the hill/obstacle, call on the radio and ask if they have. Make sure you let others know when you clear a blind obstacle too.

THE UPHILL DRIVER HAS THE RIGHT OF WAY:
The general rule is a rig going up a hill has the right of way over those going down. In many cases, a rig going uphill must maintain momentum to clear the obstacle. If stopped mid-hill, they may have to back down and start again. It is "best practice" to move over, wait for them to clear the hill, and then proceed. The exception to this rule, like most exceptions, requires a little common sense and some common courtesy. If someone is sliding down a slick or icy hill or is on an obstacle they cannot stop on or back up on, give them the right of way, regardless of their direction.

DRINKING IS FOR AFTER THE DRIVING IS DONE:
Just don't do it. Drinking puts everyone on the trail in danger. Drinking and driving is not just dumb, it is illegal. The laws are the same when driving a trail, in town, or on the interstate. Having an open container in a vehicle is illegal in all states west of the Mississippi River. This does not change because you are in the forest. Off-roading is challenging enough without being drunk or high on the trail.

ONLY FRIENDLY PETS, PLEASE:
It is simple. If your dog is dangerous to people or other pets, leave Fido at home. I have seen a few people quickly wear out their welcome due to an aggressive pup.

BE KIND TO OTHERS YOU MEET ON THE TRAIL:
Share the trail. Move over when you can and give motorcycles, ATVers, and faster-moving folks, the right of way. Move past hikers slowly, don't kick up any more dust than you must, and be friendly. Some horses are pretty skittish, so ask the rider how best to proceed if needed. If you have to pass horses, go slow and keep the engine as quiet as possible. It should go without saying, but no revving engines and no horns, please.

MEN TO THE LEFT BECAUSE WOMEN ARE ALWAYS RIGHT:
This is not meant to offend anyone. It is just an easy way to remember the rule. When the group stops in a spot without facilities, this is a good rule of thumb to prevent conflicts in the bushes. Please remember to bury anything left behind at least 6" deep or, better yet, pack it out.

TREAD LIGHTLY:
Stay on the trail, drive over, not around obstacles to avoid widening the trail. Cross streams only at designated fording points, where the road crosses the stream. Comply with all signs and respect barriers. And last but not least pack out what you pack in. In other words "cool your ash, and pack your trash".

EXCEPTIONS:
Trail etiquette is a good thing, but sometimes safety dictates an exception. These rules are not set in stone for a reason. An experienced off-roader will know this and adjust as needed. As Captain Jack Sparrow's pirate crew might remind us, "These rules are really more like guidelines, anyway." Knowing trail etiquette is important, but learning when to use a little common sense and adjust those "rules" to the situation is a sign of experience. Remember, there is just one unalterable, never-changing rule in off-roading. That is SAFETY FIRST! No other "rule" is more important than that one.
Of course, there are always more "rules" one can add. However, this is a good start. Ultimately, it all boils down to one simple phrase: BE FRIENDLY, BE HELPFUL & BE SAFE.
WHEEL SAFE!!
 
BadSquatch said:
I'll be leading a run on Friday of Big Bear Bronco Bash, and invite anyone who's interested to join me.
  • DATE : Friday, June 6
  • TIME: 9:00 AM
  • TRAIL RATING: Easy+
  • TRAILS: Upper Holcomb and Delmar Mountain
  • STAGING LOCATION: TBD depending on size of group
  • MAX VEHICLES: 15
  • COMMS: TBD depending on what most of the participants have, but I suspect it will be GMRS

View attachment 2777

Upper Holcomb Creek to Delamar Mountain is an easy, scenic run through the forest north of Big Bear Lake. I'm calling it Easy+ because there several short, lightly technical sections that any stock 4WD vehicle should be able to make. The route starts at the Fawnskin FireStation and proceeds up 3N14 (Coxey Rd.) which is one of the "main drags" and leads to many other trails on the north side of Big Bear Lake. Speaking of which, we will then turn off onto 3N08 (Upper Holcomb Creek Rd. ). Please don't confuse this with the much more difficult Holcomb Creek. We will continue on 3N08 all the way until it ends at 3N16 (Holcomb Valley Rd.) which we will use briefly until we transition onto 3N83 which is often referred to as Upper Holcomb Rd. This trail has a couple of slightly more technical spots, but nothing that a 4WD with a bit of ground clearance like a Bronco can't handle pretty easily. That will take us back to 3N16, but again briefly, as we will transition into 2N09 (Polique Canyon Rd.). This is another of those "main drags" and will take us to our next turn onto 2N09A (Polique Canyon Spur). That will lead us to 3N12 (Delmar Man Rd). We will take 3N12 until we get to 2N71 (Blue Quartz) which will lead us right back to 2N09, which take us back to the highway.

Here's a link to the run on OnX, if you need/want the .gpx file hit me up and I'll sent it to you.

What you need to bring:
  • HAM/GRMS Radio (we will decide what freqency/channel we will use at the drivers meeting)
  • GPS Reader of some type (we'll communicate files in GPX) (optional)
  • 1 full size spare
  • Lunch Water & Snacks (we will be stopping for lunch as soon as I figure out the best spot)
  • Basic tools and recovery gear (if you don't have these, there are some good threads on this forum talking about what you get. Since this is an easy trail, you SHOULDN'T need them but it's good to have them, "just in case")

I'd like to limit the number of vehicles to 15. If you'd like to join me please post below with your name, the model of Bronco, trim level, and year. Then I'll add you to the list.

PARTICIPANTS:
  1. Joerg Hallbauer ('22 Velocity Blue BadSquatch)
  2. Jeff & Jeanne (23 Bronco Area51 Badlands)
  3. Dave & Karen (2021 Badlands Sasquatch)
  4. Joseph (22 OB)
  5. Dan pikschus (2023 Badlands bronco two door)
  6. Matthew Wedgeworth (1990 bronco, green and black)
  7. Johnny Zamora (2021 Big Bend}







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@JDZ are you interested in joining us? If so, I just need a name, and what year, model, etc. Bronco you're driving and I'm happy to dd you to the list.
 
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BadSquatch said:
I'll be leading a run on Friday of Big Bear Bronco Bash, and invite anyone who's interested to join me.
  • DATE : Friday, June 6
  • TIME: 9:00 AM
  • TRAIL RATING: Easy+
  • TRAILS: Upper Holcomb and Delmar Mountain
  • STAGING LOCATION: TBD depending on size of group
  • MAX VEHICLES: 15
  • COMMS: TBD depending on what most of the participants have, but I suspect it will be GMRS

View attachment 2777

Upper Holcomb Creek to Delamar Mountain is an easy, scenic run through the forest north of Big Bear Lake. I'm calling it Easy+ because there several short, lightly technical sections that any stock 4WD vehicle should be able to make. The route starts at the Fawnskin FireStation and proceeds up 3N14 (Coxey Rd.) which is one of the "main drags" and leads to many other trails on the north side of Big Bear Lake. Speaking of which, we will then turn off onto 3N08 (Upper Holcomb Creek Rd. ). Please don't confuse this with the much more difficult Holcomb Creek. We will continue on 3N08 all the way until it ends at 3N16 (Holcomb Valley Rd.) which we will use briefly until we transition onto 3N83 which is often referred to as Upper Holcomb Rd. This trail has a couple of slightly more technical spots, but nothing that a 4WD with a bit of ground clearance like a Bronco can't handle pretty easily. That will take us back to 3N16, but again briefly, as we will transition into 2N09 (Polique Canyon Rd.). This is another of those "main drags" and will take us to our next turn onto 2N09A (Polique Canyon Spur). That will lead us to 3N12 (Delmar Man Rd). We will take 3N12 until we get to 2N71 (Blue Quartz) which will lead us right back to 2N09, which take us back to the highway.

Here's a link to the run on OnX, if you need/want the .gpx file hit me up and I'll sent it to you.

What you need to bring:
  • HAM/GRMS Radio (we will decide what freqency/channel we will use at the drivers meeting)
  • GPS Reader of some type (we'll communicate files in GPX) (optional)
  • 1 full size spare
  • Lunch Water & Snacks (we will be stopping for lunch as soon as I figure out the best spot)
  • Basic tools and recovery gear (if you don't have these, there are some good threads on this forum talking about what you get. Since this is an easy trail, you SHOULDN'T need them but it's good to have them, "just in case")

I'd like to limit the number of vehicles to 15. If you'd like to join me please post below with your name, the model of Bronco, trim level, and year. Then I'll add you to the list.

PARTICIPANTS:
  1. Joerg Hallbauer ('22 Velocity Blue BadSquatch)
  2. Jeff & Jeanne (23 Bronco Area51 Badlands)
  3. Dave & Karen (2021 Badlands Sasquatch)
  4. Joseph (22 OB)
  5. Dan pikschus (2023 Badlands bronco two door)
  6. Matthew Wedgeworth (1990 bronco, green and black)
  7. Rich karam (2024 bronco raptor







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BadSquatch said:
I'll be leading a run on Friday of Big Bear Bronco Bash, and invite anyone who's interested to join me.
  • DATE : Friday, June 6
  • TIME: 9:00 AM
  • TRAIL RATING: Easy+
  • TRAILS: Upper Holcomb and Delmar Mountain
  • STAGING LOCATION: TBD depending on size of group
  • MAX VEHICLES: 15
  • COMMS: TBD depending on what most of the participants have, but I suspect it will be GMRS

View attachment 2777

Upper Holcomb Creek to Delamar Mountain is an easy, scenic run through the forest north of Big Bear Lake. I'm calling it Easy+ because there several short, lightly technical sections that any stock 4WD vehicle should be able to make. The route starts at the Fawnskin FireStation and proceeds up 3N14 (Coxey Rd.) which is one of the "main drags" and leads to many other trails on the north side of Big Bear Lake. Speaking of which, we will then turn off onto 3N08 (Upper Holcomb Creek Rd. ). Please don't confuse this with the much more difficult Holcomb Creek. We will continue on 3N08 all the way until it ends at 3N16 (Holcomb Valley Rd.) which we will use briefly until we transition onto 3N83 which is often referred to as Upper Holcomb Rd. This trail has a couple of slightly more technical spots, but nothing that a 4WD with a bit of ground clearance like a Bronco can't handle pretty easily. That will take us back to 3N16, but again briefly, as we will transition into 2N09 (Polique Canyon Rd.). This is another of those "main drags" and will take us to our next turn onto 2N09A (Polique Canyon Spur). That will lead us to 3N12 (Delmar Man Rd). We will take 3N12 until we get to 2N71 (Blue Quartz) which will lead us right back to 2N09, which take us back to the highway.

Here's a link to the run on OnX, if you need/want the .gpx file hit me up and I'll sent it to you.

What you need to bring:
  • HAM/GRMS Radio (we will decide what freqency/channel we will use at the drivers meeting)
  • GPS Reader of some type (we'll communicate files in GPX) (optional)
  • 1 full size spare
  • Lunch Water & Snacks (we will be stopping for lunch as soon as I figure out the best spot)
  • Basic tools and recovery gear (if you don't have these, there are some good threads on this forum talking about what you get. Since this is an easy trail, you SHOULDN'T need them but it's good to have them, "just in case")

I'd like to limit the number of vehicles to 15. If you'd like to join me please post below with your name, the model of Bronco, trim level, and year. Then I'll add you to the list.

PARTICIPANTS:
  1. Joerg Hallbauer ('22 Velocity Blue BadSquatch)
  2. Jeff & Jeanne (23 Bronco Area51 Badlands)
  3. Dave & Karen (2021 Badlands Sasquatch)
  4. Joseph (22 OB)
  5. Dan pikschus (2023 Badlands bronco two door)
  6. Matthew Wedgeworth (1990 bronco, green and black)
  7. Rich K 2024 raptor bronco







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BadSquatch said:
I'll be leading a run on Friday of Big Bear Bronco Bash, and invite anyone who's interested to join me.
  • DATE : Friday, June 6
  • TIME: 9:00 AM
  • TRAIL RATING: Easy+
  • TRAILS: Upper Holcomb and Delmar Mountain
  • STAGING LOCATION: TBD depending on size of group
  • MAX VEHICLES: 15
  • COMMS: TBD depending on what most of the participants have, but I suspect it will be GMRS

View attachment 2777

Upper Holcomb Creek to Delamar Mountain is an easy, scenic run through the forest north of Big Bear Lake. I'm calling it Easy+ because there several short, lightly technical sections that any stock 4WD vehicle should be able to make. The route starts at the Fawnskin FireStation and proceeds up 3N14 (Coxey Rd.) which is one of the "main drags" and leads to many other trails on the north side of Big Bear Lake. Speaking of which, we will then turn off onto 3N08 (Upper Holcomb Creek Rd. ). Please don't confuse this with the much more difficult Holcomb Creek. We will continue on 3N08 all the way until it ends at 3N16 (Holcomb Valley Rd.) which we will use briefly until we transition onto 3N83 which is often referred to as Upper Holcomb Rd. This trail has a couple of slightly more technical spots, but nothing that a 4WD with a bit of ground clearance like a Bronco can't handle pretty easily. That will take us back to 3N16, but again briefly, as we will transition into 2N09 (Polique Canyon Rd.). This is another of those "main drags" and will take us to our next turn onto 2N09A (Polique Canyon Spur). That will lead us to 3N12 (Delmar Man Rd). We will take 3N12 until we get to 2N71 (Blue Quartz) which will lead us right back to 2N09, which take us back to the highway.

Here's a link to the run on OnX, if you need/want the .gpx file hit me up and I'll sent it to you.

What you need to bring:
  • HAM/GRMS Radio (we will decide what freqency/channel we will use at the drivers meeting)
  • GPS Reader of some type (we'll communicate files in GPX) (optional)
  • 1 full size spare
  • Lunch Water & Snacks (we will be stopping for lunch as soon as I figure out the best spot)
  • Basic tools and recovery gear (if you don't have these, there are some good threads on this forum talking about what you get. Since this is an easy trail, you SHOULDN'T need them but it's good to have them, "just in case")

I'd like to limit the number of vehicles to 15. If you'd like to join me please post below with your name, the model of Bronco, trim level, and year. Then I'll add you to the list.

PARTICIPANTS:
  1. Joerg Hallbauer ('22 Velocity Blue BadSquatch)
  2. Jeff & Jeanne (23 Bronco Area51 Badlands)
  3. Dave & Karen (2021 Badlands Sasquatch)
  4. Joseph (22 OB)
  5. Dan pikschus (2023 Badlands bronco two door)
  6. Matthew Wedgeworth (1990 bronco, green and black)
  7. Rich K (2024 raptor bronco)
  8. Jason &Kelly Myers (2022 Badlands Sas)





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