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BBBBXXIII - Thursday Afternoon Easy Run - Upper Holcomb Creek

BadSquatch

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I'll be leading a run on Thursday of Big Bear Bronco Bash, and invite anyone who's interested to join me.
  • DATE & TIME: Thursday, June 6, 2:00 PM
  • TRAIL RATING: Easy
  • TRAILS: Upper Holcomb Creek
  • STAGING LOCATION: Big Bear Discovery Center parking lot on the north side of the lake. Google Maps LINK
  • MAX VEHICLES: 20
  • COMMS: TBD depending on what most of the participants have, but I suspect it will be GMRS
This is the afternoon run I mentioned in my Delmar Mountain run in the morning posting. It's another easy, scenic route that mostly runs paraallel to the Holcomb Creek gorge. Don't worry, the plan is to get you back in plenty of time for Thursday night's activities!

As always please be prepared with the following:
HAM/GRMS Radio (we will decide what freqency/channel we will use at the drivers meeting)
GPS Reader of some type (we'll communicate files in GPX)
1 full size spare
Water & Food/Snacks (we shouldn't be on the trail past lunch, but you might want a snack along just in case)
Basic tools and recovery gear (if you don't have these, there are some good thread on this forum talking about what you get. Since this is an easy trail, your SHOULDN'T need them)

We will stage at the Big Bear Discovery Center, see above for a Google Maps link on how to find it. For the run, here's a link to the OnX mapping for this run. If you want a .gpx file to load into something other than OnX ping me and I can send you the file.

Folks, I just heard that there's not going to be a Taco night on Thurs. night so Lucia and I are going to go to Gaby's for dinner. If anyone want's to join us we would love the company. https://gabysbigbear.com/



I'd like to limit the number of vehicles to 15. If you'd like to join me please post below and I'll add you to the list. I doubt that we will get 20 since it's Thursday, but you never know.

PARTICIPANTS:
  1. Joerg Hallbauer
  2. Tom B
  3. Ben Stein
  4. Rick Stein
  5. Randy Hrdlicka
  6. Scott Buttler
  7. Mike OToole
  8. George Lozano
  9. Eddie Arias
  10. Kenny Fincher
  11. Nick Jolliff
  12. JeffMcCabe
  13. Mark and Christina
  14. Jason Tibbitts
  15. Frank R.
  16. Rebecca Monroy
  17. jim junio
  18. Other
  19. Other
 
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Thanks for leading a run! I *might* join you on this one. Don't put me on the list yet though :)
 
Joerg, thanks for putting this together. Please put my son, Ben Stein, and myself down. Two separate vehicles!

Rick Stein
 
I'll be leading a run on Thursday of Big Bear Bronco Bash, and invite anyone who's interested to join me.
  • DATE & TIME: Thursday, June 6, 2:00 PM
  • TRAIL RATING: Easy
  • TRAILS: Upper Holcomb Creek
  • STAGING LOCATION: TBD
  • MAX VEHICLES: 20
  • COMMS: TBD depending on what most of the participants have, but I suspect it will be GMRS
This is the afternoon run I mentioned in my Delmar Mountain run in the morning posting. It's another easy, scenic route that mostly runs paraallel to the Holcomb Creek gorge. Don't worry, the plan is to get ou back in plenty of time for Thursday night's activities!

I'll post more details about where we will meet, and a GPX file for those that would like to import it into their trail mapping program of choice once I get that nailed down. Personally, I'll be using OnX, so if you prefer, I can send you an OnX link.

I'd like to limit the number of vehicles to 20. If you'd like to join me please post below and I'll add you to the list. I doubt that we will get 20 since it's Thursday, but you never know.

PARTICIPANTS:
  1. Joerg Hallbauer
  2. Tom B
  3. Ben Stein
  4. Rick Stein
  5. Randy Hrdlicka
  6. open
  7. open
  8. open
  9. open
  10. open
  11. open
  12. open
  13. open
  14. open
  15. open
  16. open
  17. open
  18. open
  19. open
  20. open
Randy Hrdlicka
 
I'll be leading a run on Thursday of Big Bear Bronco Bash, and invite anyone who's interested to join me.
  • DATE & TIME: Thursday, June 6, 2:00 PM
  • TRAIL RATING: Easy
  • TRAILS: Upper Holcomb Creek
  • STAGING LOCATION: Big Bear Discovery Center parking lot on the north side of the lake. Google Maps LINK
  • MAX VEHICLES: 20
  • COMMS: TBD depending on what most of the participants have, but I suspect it will be GMRS
This is the afternoon run I mentioned in my Delmar Mountain run in the morning posting. It's another easy, scenic route that mostly runs paraallel to the Holcomb Creek gorge. Don't worry, the plan is to get you back in plenty of time for Thursday night's activities!

We will stage at the Big Bear Discovery Center, see above for a lGoogle Maps link on how to find it. For the run, here's a link to the OnX mapping for this run. If you want a .gpx file to load into something other than OnX ping me and I can send you the file.


I'd like to limit the number of vehicles to 20. If you'd like to join me please post below and I'll add you to the list. I doubt that we will get 20 since it's Thursday, but you never know.

PARTICIPANTS:
  1. Joerg Hallbauer
  2. Tom B
  3. Ben Stein
  4. Rick Stein
  5. Randy Hrdlicka
  6. Scott Buttler
  7. open
  8. open
  9. open
  10. open
  11. open
  12. open
  13. open
  14. open
  15. open
  16. open
  17. open
  18. open
  19. open
  20. open
Hello Joerg,
Please add me to this list for the Thursday afternoon trail ride.
Thanks,
MikeO
 
We might be joining you too. Don’t put us on the list. It’s going to be a last minute decision. Sounds fun though. Gabby’s sounds delicious.
 
We might be joining you too. Don’t put us on the list. It’s going to be a last minute decision. Sounds fun though. Gabby’s sounds delicious.
Happy you have you join us! We haven't been to Gaby's in a while. But the last time we were there it was great! The plan is to hit the happy hour at around 5:00ish, then head out to Gaby's for dinner, and then back to The Moose to see who's still "happying". That's the plan anyway ... you know what they say, "man plans, and God laughs", so who knows.
 
Folks,

For those joining us on the run, I added some info above. Also...

For those of you new of the offroad game, I though I would post some basic trail etiquette. I'll go over some of this in the drivers meeting as well, and since this is an easy run, you won't have to worry much about a lot of it. But it's a "good to know" kinda thing for those who are new to the "offroad game".

TRAIL COMMUNICATION IS A SAFETY ISSUE:
Trail communication between vehicles is not just a convenience but a safety requirement, IMHO. The ability to communicate with others that an obstacle is still blocked or has been cleared or that a hazard is present can save a lot of grief. Knowing others are on the trail, such as hikers, horses, or ATVs, can be important for the safety of everyone on the trail. Whatever your group uses for communication, be it CB, HAM, GMRS, or something else, I suggest you get one and learn to use it. For those that don't have one yet, there are a number of thread here on the forums talking about radio, what you get, etc. Note that "officially" SCB uses 2-meter HAM.

YOU ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR THE RIG BEHIND YOU:
You are responsible for the vehicle behind you when traveling the trail or in the convoy to or from the trail. You should try to keep that vehicle in your rear-view mirrors as much as possible. If they move slower than the group and fall behind, you should slow down or stop as needed for them to catch up. The driver in front of you should see that you slowed down or stopped and do the same. Nobody will get left far behind if everyone does this. When you come to a fork or turn in the road, you should wait at the intersection until you know the driver behind you sees the turn. They will make sure the same happens for the rig behind them. If someone needs a little privacy, you can't always keep them in view, but you can keep them in radio distance or sit just out of sight and wait for them to rejoin the ride.

GIVE PLENTY OF SPACE BETWEEN RIGS:
A little bit of space between rigs is a good thing. This is especially true of you have a gen-6 Bronco with the Goodyear rock throwers, err, I mean tires. Whether the rig in front of you is moving or stopped, you should not run up close behind them. Among other things, a little distance allows you to see the trail more clearly so you may see and choose the better line. When going uphill, staying back may keep you from being hit by rocks that are tossed or rolled down by the vehicle ahead of you. They may need extra room to back or deal with obstacles. That will be much more difficult if you are right on their bumper. On really rough spots, wait at the bottom or top, as the case may be until the leading vehicle clears the hill completely. If you cannot SEE them clear the hill/obstacle, call on the radio and ask if they have. Make sure you let others know when you clear a blind obstacle too.

THE UPHILL DRIVER HAS THE RIGHT OF WAY:
The general rule is a rig going up a hill has the right of way over those going down. In many cases, a rig going uphill must maintain momentum to clear the obstacle. If stopped mid-hill, they may have to back down and start again. It is "best practice" to move over, wait for them to clear the hill, and then proceed. The exception to this rule, like most exceptions, requires a little common sense and some common courtesy. If someone is sliding down a slick or icy hill or is on an obstacle they cannot stop on or back up on, give them the right of way, regardless of their direction.

DRINKING IS FOR AFTER THE DRIVING IS DONE:
Just don't do it. Drinking puts everyone on the trail in danger. Drinking and driving is not just dumb, and it is illegal. The laws are the same as when driving a trail, in town, or on the interstate. Having an open container in a vehicle is illegal in all states west of the Mississippi River. This does not change because you are in the forest. Off-roading is challenging enough without being drunk or high on the trail.

ONLY FRIENDLY PETS, PLEASE:
It is simple. If your dog is dangerous to people or other pets, leave Fido at home. I have seen a few people quickly wear out their welcome due to an aggressive pup.

BE KIND TO OTHERS YOU MEET ON THE TRAIL:
Share the trail. Move over when you can and give motorcycles, ATVers, and faster-moving folks, the right of way. Move past hikers slowly, don't kick up any more dust than you must, and be friendly. If you encounter horses, move to the side of the road and turn off your engine. Some horses are pretty skittish, so ask the rider how best to proceed if needed. If you have to pass horses, go slow and keep the engine as quiet as possible. It should go without saying, but no revving engines and no horns, please.

MEN TO THE LEFT BECAUSE WOMEN ARE ALWAYS RIGHT:
This is not meant to offend anyone. It is just an easy way to remember the rule. When the group stops in a spot without facilities, this is a good rule of thumb to prevent conflicts in the bushes. Please remember to bury anything left behind at least 6" deep or, better yet, pack it out.

TREAD LIGHTLY:
Stay on the trail, drive over, not around obstacles to avoid widening the trail. Cross streams only at designated fording points, where the road crosses the stream. Comply with all signs and respect barriers. And last but not least pack out what you pack in. In other words "cool your ash, and pack your trash".

EXCEPTIONS:
Rules are good things, but sometimes safety dictates an exception. These rules are not set in stone for a reason. An experienced off-roader will know this and adjust as needed. As Captain Jack Sparrow's pirate crew might remind us, "These rules are really more like guidelines, anyway." Knowing the rules is important, but learning when to use a little common sense and adjust those "rules" to the situation is a sign of experience. Remember, there is just one unalterable, never-changing rule in off-roading. That is SAFETY FIRST! No other "rule" is more important than that one.
Of course, there are always more "rules" one can add. However, this is a good start. Ultimately, it all boils down to one simple phrase: BE FRIENDLY, BE HELPFUL & BE SAFE.
WHEEL SAFE!!
 
I’d like to join on this run also if room. i asked on the morning run forum but didn’t know if I had to here to make it official. Still FNG.

Mike Sheppard.
 
I'll be leading a run on Thursday of Big Bear Bronco Bash, and invite anyone who's interested to join me.
  • DATE & TIME: Thursday, June 6, 2:00 PM
  • TRAIL RATING: Easy
  • TRAILS: Upper Holcomb Creek
  • STAGING LOCATION: Big Bear Discovery Center parking lot on the north side of the lake. Google Maps LINK
  • MAX VEHICLES: 20
  • COMMS: TBD depending on what most of the participants have, but I suspect it will be GMRS
This is the afternoon run I mentioned in my Delmar Mountain run in the morning posting. It's another easy, scenic route that mostly runs paraallel to the Holcomb Creek gorge. Don't worry, the plan is to get you back in plenty of time for Thursday night's activities!

As always please be prepared with the following:
HAM/GRMS Radio (we will decide what freqency/channel we will use at the drivers meeting)
GPS Reader of some type (we'll communicate files in GPX)
1 full size spare
Water & Food/Snacks (we shouldn't be on the trail past lunch, but you might want a snack along just in case)
Basic tools and recovery gear (if you don't have these, there are some good thread on this forum talking about what you get. Since this is an easy trail, your SHOULDN'T need them)

We will stage at the Big Bear Discovery Center, see above for a Google Maps link on how to find it. For the run, here's a link to the OnX mapping for this run. If you want a .gpx file to load into something other than OnX ping me and I can send you the file.

Folks, I just heard that there's not going to be a Taco night on Thurs. night so Lucia and I are going to go to Gaby's for dinner. If anyone want's to join us we would love the company. https://gabysbigbear.com/



I'd like to limit the number of vehicles to 20. If you'd like to join me please post below and I'll add you to the list. I doubt that we will get 20 since it's Thursday, but you never know.

PARTICIPANTS:
  1. Joerg Hallbauer
  2. Tom B
  3. Ben Stein
  4. Rick Stein
  5. Randy Hrdlicka
  6. Scott Buttler
  7. Mike OToole
  8. George Lozano
  9. Eddie Arias
  10. Mike Sheppard
  11. Kenny Fincher
  12. open
  13. open
  14. open
  15. open
  16. open
  17. open
  18. open
  19. open
  20. open
 

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